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The 1864 United States presidential election was the 20th quadrennial presidential election, held on Tuesday, November 8, 1864, near the end of the American Civil War. Former General George B. McClellan of the Democratic Party defeated incumbent president Abraham Lincoln of the National Union Party. It was one of the most contentious election results in American history, due to the fact that the Union-occupied states of Tennessee and Louisiana had held elections in which President Lincoln won the states' electoral votes, but were rejected due to war issues. Also, one of Nevada's electors was snowbound and unable to cast a vote for President or Vice President.

Despite significant intra-party opposition from Salmon Chase and John C. Fremont, the latter briefly launching a third-party bid before withdrawing in October 1864, Lincoln won the National Union Party nomination. Lincoln, who deeply worried for his chances to win non-republican votes, chose to extend an olive branch to War Democrats, with the convention selecting Andrew Johnson of Tennessee, a prominent War Democrat, as his running mate. The Democrats were divided between the War Democrat and the Copperhead factions of the party. George B. McClellan was nominated in order to secure the War Democrat vote, but his running mate was Copperhead leader George H. Pendleton, and the party convention called for a peaceful resolution to the Civil War, something that McClellan personally opposed.

In the summer of 1864, the Confederacy seemed to have a fighting chance of survival despite being on the defensive for months, however Lincoln and Union military leadership had great confidence that the war would be won. General William Tecumseh Sherman had since May held a siege of Atlanta, Georgia, and looked to be on the cusp of capture in late August. However, in a crippling blow to Union morale, Confederate generals John Bell Hood and William J. Hardee launched a devastating rout of Sherman's forces on August 31, dealing significant casualties and forcing Sherman to retreat. After continued failures to siege Atlanta, Lincoln's popularity continued to plummet as the Union lost much more morale than before. With increased public pressure on McClellan to shift his tone, he finally acquiesced and ran on a platform of peace with honor, seeing the war as a war of attrition that would only generate more casualties and supply losses for both sides. Historians believe he implied a peaceful re-union with the South instead of a peaceful separation, but the Democratic base was impressed nevertheless.

Due to Lincoln being perceived as continuing a pointless war despite more victories than losses, Lincoln lost the election to McClellan, but the election itself was still controversial. Republicans in congress argued that the electoral votes of Louisiana and Tennessee, as well as the snowbound elector in Nevada, should be counted, and if they had been, Lincoln would have won by a slim 126 to 125 electoral vote margin. However, the votes in Louisiana and Tennessee were rejected due to issues certifying results and sending those results to congress, while in Nevada's case, the state did not have a law permitting the replacement of electors. Not only were these pushes rejected by Congress, Lincoln himself called upon his Republican colleagues to stand down from these challenges in order to meet the higher call of national unity in time of war, and thus these challenges quickly lost steam. McClellan's win would be certified when the electoral college met in December 1864, and McClellan was inaugurated on March 4, 1865. McClellan's election directly led to the Peace of Richmond, signed on May 21, 1865, which saw the reunification of the Confederate states into the Union under the guise of a constitutional amendment to protect the state's right to slavery in the former Confederate states. The Thirteenth Amendment, which set in place this protection, was officially ratified on November 4, 1865, officially re-unifying the United States of America.
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Haven't heard of that one, what's the premise?

It is a succession game. The actual focus is the monarchs and then prime ministers ("Grand Executors") of Britain/Bryten. It starts from 1066 with Harald Hardrada conquering England instead of William of Normandy. And then the general evolution of things developing on their own through time.
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Seems... unlikely.
Very, it's well known that the war is unwinnable by the south by that point (probably always was even if they get lucky) and even McClellan is going to be demanding the obvious concession to let the south back in. Even if they wanted to come back as without the US army sitting on it and no options the CSA wants independence and nothing less.

Any other possibilities are Lost cause fantasies pure and simple.
There are some people who are just too dangerous to ever be released into society. At least so goes the official position of the State. And some people just could not be contained by normal prisons. Mechanical and Biological enhancements have helped make humans infinately tougher than they were when they were still constrained by the surly bonds of Earth. Some have even managed to engineer bodies that can survive a vacuum, and be picked up by co-conspirators. Others are simply master escape artists, or manipulators who cannot be allowed human contact.

For such people, there is exists only one place to keep them. The Venus Enhanced Containment System (Vex in the parlance of the criminals). Organized via the United Nations of the Solar System, it is the most secure prison ever built. The entire planet of Venus has been quarantined, not that it was habitable anyway. The Warden resides in the one station in orbit, where the cells of the system are manufactured. They are not particularly roomy things, with automated nutrition and life support systems, a bed, a chair, and a wall mounted screen for approved entertainment. Oh, and cameras and sensors everywhere. Prisoners are placed in these cells, which are then hurtled down into the surface, buried in the ground to help avoid the monstrous pressure.

Even the most advanced enhanced humans, and the best landing craft, cannot survive the surface of Venus. There are drones that can do some repairs, but absolutely no craft capable of retrieving a prisoner. Even a full exoneration and pardon cannot free a prisoner in the Vex. In theory someone could engineer something, but why would you. The Warden, can, at will, vent a cell and kill a prisoner. This has naturally provoked controversy, some arguing thew Vex is cruel and unusual punishment, others noting the protentisal for wrongful imprisonment. Only 35 people have ever been imprisoned on Venus. Radicals say that is too many, but many say it is not enough.

Seems... unlikely.
Very, it's well known that the war is unwinnable by the south by that point (probably always was even if they get lucky) and even McClellan is going to be demanding the obvious concession to let the south back in. Even if they wanted to come back as without the US army sitting on it and no options the CSA wants independence and nothing less.

Any other possibilities are Lost cause fantasies pure and simple.
the goal with this was not necessarily realism, but more-so as a sadist take on what a peaceful re-integration of the South could have looked like, as grotesque of an idea as constitutionally protected slavery would be. Take this with a grain of salt!
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The War in the Vendée and the Chouannerie are way more successful and snowball into a counterrevolution that manages to take Paris and restore Louis XVII (not sure who his Regent would be).
Another Walking Dead-related infobox, going off information on the Walking Dead Wiki.

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A screenshot of an infobox of what would later be called the Second American Civil War. Taken on September 9, 2010, one day before the lights of the world went dark.
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Wallace-Sanders 1968

I learned that a little while ago that back during the 1968 United States presidential election, Colonel Sanders of Kentucky Fried Chicken fame was seen as a potential running mate for George Wallace on the American Independent Party ticket. However, General Curtis LeMay was eventually chosen.

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I wonder how the ticket would have done compared to OTL.
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Wallace-Sanders 1968

I learned that a little while ago that back during the 1968 United States presidential election, Colonel Sanders of Kentucky Fried Chicken fame was seen as a potential running mate for George Wallace on the American Independent Party ticket. However, General Curtis LeMay was eventually chosen.

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I wonder how the ticket would have done compared to OTL.
Given that Sanders himself was actually fairly pro-integration, I feel like the only timeline where he would have actually considered saying yes, is one where George Wallace became Governor using the same pro-integration rhetoric from his first bid for office.

[..] a 501-96-54 vote in favor of impeaching Keating for his role in covering up the scandal, even if his involvement in the bribery ring itself could not be proven. Dismayed by this result, the President claimed to need an opportunity to recover before the Senate trial began and took his Chief of Staff, John W. Dean, along with four Secret Service officers to his private estate on Chappaquiddick Island in Martha's Vineyard. It was an unusually warm day, and Keating and Dean went to the beach that evening to swim. As Dean watched, the President swam away from shore, going out further and further without looking back. After a wave crashed over him, Keating was gone, and was never seen again.

[...] Keating's death did nothing to sway the national attitude, and a battered President Kirk could only watch as the Progressive Party claimed 11 new Senate seats and a total of 441 seats in the House that November. The Freedom Party was effectively obliterated and quickly splintered. Left as the lame duck to end all lame ducks, Kirk spent the rest of his term meekly fending off Speaker Bobby Byrd's increasingly agressive legislation pushes.

[...] Due to Keating's status as a champion swimmer, Dean's reports of his strange behavior that evening, and his request that the Secret Security officers remain at his home while he went swimming, it has been widely concluded that Keating's death was a suicide.

--Excerpts from Rick Perlstein's Shining City: Rita Ray and the American Remaking
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The 1864 National Union National convention was the nominating convention held by the National Union Party to select a ticket for President and Vice President of the United States. The Party was formed by the majority faction of the Republican Party and a minority of War Democrats. President Hamlin was easily renominated by the assembled delegates. Some votes were cast for 1856 Republican nominee John C. Frémont and the ineligible Italian-born general Giuseppe Garibaldi. For Vice President, the leading candidates were from the upper south and Midwest. Ultimately, delegates chose the assassinated Abraham Lincoln’s rival, Stephen Douglas, a former Democrat. The ticket of Hamlin and Douglas went on to win every state in the general election.

The Radical Party was a short-lived political party in the United States that was founded and disbanded in 1864. It was formed by Radical Republicans who hoped for an even more radical alternative to Hannibal Hamlin in that year’s presidential election. Party leaders held hopes that they could attract a national figure to their banner but ultimately nominated pastor and college president Jonathan Blanchard alongside Brigadier General John W. Phelps. The party’s platform called for the expropriation of all land held by men holding elected office or serving in the military of the Confederate states and its redistribution to freed slaves. The party’s platform was considered too radical and the ticket performed poorly in every state.

Light of the Nation - Part 12: Of Vice and Women

Both Jimmy Carter and Bob Dole strove to portray their party as strong and unified as they hosted the conventions in 1984. Both largely succeeded. Polls were tight, although Dole was optimistic. In a bold move, the Republicans went to Detroit. One hundred years ago the party had been founded in Michigan and now it was coming home. The UAW howled, but the convention fired up the party, ready to return to the White House after 8 years out of power.

Bob Dole landed quickly on Dick Thornburgh, midway through his second term as Governor of Pennsylvania, for Vice President. Thornburgh brought a reputation as a reasonable, able administrator, while avoiding the dreaded “moderate” label, as well as rust belt representation.

Later in Baltimore, the Democrats rallied for Carter. It was an impressive display of party unity. Mondale sent off his Presidency to implore the nation to for for Jimmy, who moderates arranged to sing his praises. There was even time for minority speakers in the hubbub. Gary Hart’s keynote was not, however, the prelude to the Vice Presidency he had hoped for. Instead Carter’s team took a different tack. Rosalynn Carter held no public like Elizabeth Dole, but was no less close with her husband. And she proved a decisive factor in his VP choice.

Carter knew “change” would be a hard sell as the incumbent VP. A historic pick would energize the party. Jesse Jackson had no chance. His outspokenness had alienated parts of the party less accepting than they would admit. But he would be offended by another minority choice. Despite some lobbying from San Francisco, the party was not yet ready for a gay man on the ticket. Instead Mayor Harvey Milk used the media attention to press for research into the ongoing health crisis, to no small effect.

And so it was to the women the choice fell. And of the women, Congresswoman Pat Schroeder of Colorado stood out. A mother and a strong presence on the House Floor, she’d been in Washington longer than Carter had been. And so she was approached about the offer, which she accepted.

Both conventions led to bumps in polling, which more or less canceled each other out, leaving the race back where it had started. At least at first. There would be debates, and gaffes, and October Surprises. But most of all, the economy was improving. Finally.

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Light of the Nation - Part 13: Galloping Towards Victory

The 1984 election started close. Vice President Jimmy Carter facing off against Senator Bob Dole, it was anyone’s game. But it would not stay that way for long. Several factors were at play. Firstly the Mondale connection buoyed Carter more than was expected. As the economy began to grow, and Mondale’s term wound up, many Americans liked the President more than ever. And that quite naturally led to folks looking at his Vice President favorably.

Carter may not have enamored Democratic elites, but he was acceptable and benefited from a strong apparatus. Meanwhile, Dole saw campaign staff turnover quickly, the campaign muddled. He lurched from a Southern strategy to a Northern strategy and back again. The initial plan of “make the election a referendum about Mondale” had to be scuttled. Ad buys did do some work portraying Carter as weak, but Dole was an imperfect messenger. He could play the stable statesmen, but he wasn’t exactly a tough macho man.

Carter meanwhile, benefited from a clearer campaign vision. Let Jimmy by Jimmy in the South, and let Jimmy be Mondale’s Vice President in the North. It was a strategy that left the west and plains adrift. But it was a sound one. The debates, a rematch of the ‘76 VP debates, were something of a draw. Dole proved less plodding than expected, and got off a few “zingers.” But Carter acquitted himself well against all attacks. A similar dynamic played out in the VP debates.

The end result was a solid popular vote performance, accompanied by a stirring electoral college one. Carter took the East by storm and Dole the West. They split the Northeast, but Carter took the big prizes. And he ran away with the South and Midwest.

For the first time since 1948, the Democrats had managed three successive terms in office.

For the first time since 1836, a Vice President had been elected directly to the Presidency.

For the first time ever, a woman would be Vice President.

Taking a bit of a tangent from doing more states in my US State Soccer Leagues universe to do a quick box on the first American Championship. It's been mentioned once of twice in some of the state boxes, but I've slowly been working out how I want the format to be and thought a look at the early days would be fun. A lot of the inspiration for this early format came from a mixture of the European Cup Winners' Cup, the NCAA basketball tournament, and the National Challenge Cup.