For All Mankind (AH Tv series at Apple TV)

Not just a renewal, but a spin off as well, Star City:

YES! I mean DA!
In one of my posts in this thread (#156 I believe) I wanted the 2nd season to be in the same time as the 1st, but from the Soviet POV.
And now it more or less happens!
Am I a prophet, or something?
I have to find some of old lottery tickets. Perhaps I guessed the right numbers, but a few years too early.
BTW, will Adamczyk be there as Sergei? He might be a little too old, but with some make up and CGI... Or will he be replaced by a younger American actor? There will be no need for Slavic accent after all.
 
There's an economy to storytelling. You can only convey so much in a given volume of time. You need to establish characters, their traits, relationships, their environments and the situations they are in.

This is leaving aside the cash economics of production. This is really overt in FAM Season 1. Leaving aside CGI Space Shoots a lot of it takes place in seven locales...
  • Johnson Space Centre (mostly Mission Control, the viewing gallery, lobby, hallways and a couple of meeting rooms)
  • Stevens Residence
  • Baldwin Residence
  • The Outpost
  • Jamestown Base, which is basically a single room at this point
  • Apollo capsule interior
  • The Lunar Surface
There are a few other places, though these are pretty minor and many of them are shot on location. There are also a number of distinctly one episode characters. The Soviets are also like a minute of grainy TV footage and one Cosmonaut on the moon in the last two episodes who does not return.

I don't blame the FAM staff for this in Season 1. They already have an ensemble cast and they laying the foundations for what's to come and at the same time an air of mystery about what's going on behind the Iron Curtain is a powerful driving force. We get more of them each subsequent season as the groundwork has been laid, though this is still largely from an American perspective (even in Star City we see it from Margo Maddison's perspective). Though still it does mean that we get half of the story of this new Space Race.

Giving the Soviet's their own spin off is the logical way to go about this. It's a natural place to expand and it's gives something which is a major part of the setting it's full, undivided attention.

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After event on Finale of Season 4
it make sense to install a police force on Colonies in Solar system

In this case, i can highly recommend the BBC sci-fi series "Star Cops" about creation of the International Space Police Force,
who provide law enforcement for the newly developing outpost in the Solar System.
 
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One bit of wierdness that truly stick with me is that the FAM Space Shuttle is functionally identical to the OTL one. With the kind of budget FAM NASA has that does damage to my Suspention Of Disbelief. Try looking up what sort of stuff NASA was actually thinking of back in the day.

The Space Shuttle was a bureaucratic compromise build on a shoestring budget. FAM NASA has a great deal more money and creative freedom than that.

On a related matter, I am a little curious what FAM USA's spysatellites looks like.
 
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One bit of wierdness that truly stick with me is that the FAM Space Shuttle is functionally identical to the OTL one. With the kind of budget FAM NASA has that does damage to my Suspention Of Disbelief. Try looking up what sort of stuff NASA was actually thinking of back in the day.

The Space Shuttle was a bureaucratic compromise build on a shoestring budget. FAM NASA has a great dealmore money and creative freedom than that.
I understand that stock footage is cheaper than special effects, but that bugged me too. That and the lack of dust on the moon suits. Everything else I'm cool with.
 

Garrison

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One bit of wierdness that truly stick with me is that the FAM Space Shuttle is functionally identical to the OTL one. With the kind of budget FAM NASA has that does damage to my Suspention Of Disbelief. Try looking up what sort of stuff NASA was actually thinking of back in the day.

The Space Shuttle was a bureaucratic compromise build on a shoestring budget. FAM NASA has a great dealmore money and creative freedom than that.

On a related matter, I am a little curious what FAM USA's spysatellites looks like.
Well you can argue its a case of form following function, Buran looked so similar to the Space Shuttle because that was the best shape for an orbiter. Same logic that leads to supersonic alrliners looking remarkably similar however much some people like to claim it was all down to espionage.
 
It's a bit of a story but Buran looks like the shuttle because Russia "borrowed" the plans. And had the actually completed version of Buran been launced even once, USA would have been punched in the face in a way not seen since Sputnic launced.

It would have been 100% reusable, you would need Elon Musk's Starship to top it. It could have been a later POD for For All Mankind.
 

Garrison

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Their 2010s is very unrecognizable from ours. The fact we don't have a 9/11, War on Terror, and Arab Spring due to no Soviet invasion of Afghanistan speaks a magnitude of butterflies.
Just imagine the skyline of Dubai and the other Gulf States without oil money. It wouldn't just be politics and culture that would be different, with decades of declining CO2 output the climate will be different, maybe no Hurricane Katrina equivalent for example.
 
Just imagine the skyline of Dubai and the other Gulf States without oil money. It wouldn't just be politics and culture that would be different, with decades of declining CO2 output the climate will be different, maybe no Hurricane Katrina equivalent for example.
So Dubai here isn't the Megapolis of today? But there'd still be oil for the Gulf Countries to sell.

And yes, there's likely no Hurricane Katrina, Hurricane Sandy, or Typhoon Haiyan.
 
After event on Finale of Season 4
it make sense to install a police force on Colonies in Solar system

In this case, i can highly recommend the BBC sci-fi series "Star Cops" about creation of the International Space Police Force,
who provide law enforcement for the newly developing outpost in the Solar System.
Star Cops was an excellent show, a real pity it only ran for one series.
 

Garrison

Donor
So Dubai here isn't the Megapolis of today? But there'd still be oil for the Gulf Countries to sell.

And yes, there's likely no Hurricane Katrina, Hurricane Sandy, or Typhoon Haiyan.
Yeah but it in the FAM timeline it value is going to be far less and the Gulf will struggle to attract foreign investment.
 
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