An WB version of Kingdom Hearts. I would dig that, especially if Harry Potter and Batman was in it.
"To Introduce our Guest Star, that's What I'm Here to Do..." The Hensonverse Fan Contribution Thread
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Batman is certainly a given. Disney, meanwhile, has shown itself to be a sufficiently different entity from OTL that Rowling could easily turn to them for the Live Action Harry Potter movies.
I mean, this is the company that took Thomas The Tank Engine to America in TTL and didn't botch it one bit.
It's truly the Raspberry Pi of it's time.
Kinda a given, the portable gaming market can't really benefit from the advancements in the home console market just yet, especially with the limitations of battery power.
Also any reason for picking the Bobcat name?
I guess that Atari consoles being named after wild cats is a theme now, but much like the OTL Linx it feels really random and like they're just picking a random cat everytime.
Like I imagined maybe a smaller cat because portable.
Hilarious. Especially the zippers everywhere
Not really. No keyboard interface, unless someone wants to wire one through the controller interface. No Disc Drive or other writable software medium, unless someone makes an interface cartridge. Its software library wasn't based on emulation, either. Basically, remembering how Jay Miner developed the OTL Atari Lynx, my idea is that immediately after SNK released the Neo Geo in 1989, Atari decided that their counter to the Game Boy would leverage their existing hardware expertise, to make development easier, so they chose the architecture of the ATL Bobcat over Miner's Lynx design.
However, After seeing sales of the Game Boy take off, SNK decided that they wanted in on the action, too. But, at the same time, for the sake of the company's image, they couldn't half-ass it either. It would have to be the Neo Geo of portable consoles. At the time, they were in negotiations with Toshiba as a second source for the 68000, when they came across Jay Minor's portable console design as he and his team was hard at work on the third generation of Toshiba TOPS hardware, and one thing lead to another...
That said, I can easily see the TTL Neo Geo Pocket inspire (in their minds) spiritual successors in the form of things resembling the likes of the Dingoo, Caanoo, and DragonBox Pyra.
I don't think but I imagine it would have elements of both OTLs UPN and Fox.
I’m new to this thread so I’ll have to catch up.
That said, are there any fictional celebrities created for the Hensonverse?
That said, are there any fictional celebrities created for the Hensonverse?
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We haven't gotten far enough to have fictional celebrities, all the celebrities mentioned are real ones, how they get discovered and what roles they get are the ones that got changed.
(physically trying to hold back laughter)
All jokes aside, it's a great idea for TTL.
I mean I'd really like to see this concept below made into a game ITTL (just with the references to CN/Boomerang/Turner replaced with Nick/Neptune references).
What do you guys think?
I'm the guy that made "Looney Tales", and I say to go for it.
As If...
No Worries (1995-2000)[1]
From the TV Show WikiGuest post by one Mr. Harris and @Plateosaurus
No Worries is an American teen comedy drama series written and directed by Amy Heckerling that aired on the Paramount-Fox Network (PFN) in the United States from July 19, 1995 until March 21, 2000, running a total of six seasons. The show is loosely based on the 1815 Jane Austen novel Emma with the setting changed from Regency era England to then-contemporary southern California at the famous Beverly Hills High School.
The series centers on Cher Horowitz (Alicia Silverstone)[2], a nerdy and optimistic student from Beverly Hills who meets a new student named Tai Frasier (Brittany Murphy) and befriends her. Little does Cher know that her newfound friendship with Tai would get her and her new friend entangled with the lives of other school students, eventually leading to the formation of the No Worries Club. Aside from Silverstone, the show’s principal and recurring cast includes Lauryn Hill, Paul Rudd, Terrence Howard, Zooey Deschanel[3], Breckin Meyer, Jeremy Renner, Dan Hedaya, Jeremy Sisto, Wallace Shawn, Julie Brown, Twink Caplan and Jennifer Aniston[4]. While the first season adapted Emma, the show's later seasons were comprised of original storylines written by Heckerling though they continued to have allusions to Austen's works.
Plot
Season 1 focuses on Tai Frasier (Brittany Murphy)’s arrival at her Beverly Hills high school and being treated as a total outsider with no friends. Meanwhile, Cher Horowitz (Alicia Silverstone) and Dionne Davenport (Lauryn Hill) are living the high life with Cher living with her wealthy litigator father Mel (Dan Hedaya) eve since her mother died during a liposuction procedure though she has a strained relationship with her older ex-stepbrother Josh Lucas (Paul Rudd). Dionne on the other hand, is dating a popular student named Murray Duvall (Terrence Howard) though Cher tells her that she should date more mature guys instead of him. One day, Cher receives a poor grade in class and decides to set up a romance between Mr. Wendell Hall (Wallace Shawn) and Ms. Toby Geist (Twink Caplan) to change her grade and after seeing them happy as a couple, Cher realizes that she enjoys doing “good deeds” leading her to befriend Tai. Cher’s actions soon led to the formation of the No Worries Club with her, Tai, Dionne, Amber Mariens (Zooey Deschanel), Christian Stovitz (Jeremy Renner) and Breckin Meyer (Travis Birkenstock) with Murray joining the club later. From that point on, Alicia tries to play matchmaker again with her fellow classmates only to discover that her privileged status has it’s limits when she strains her relationship with the newly-popular Tai and fails her driving test but cannot change the results. Eventually, Cher realizes that she failed to properly appreciate the friends in her life so she decides to make an earnest effort of living a more purposeful life starting with captaining the school’s Pismo Beach disaster relief. Eventually, Cher witnesses Tai and Travis becoming a couple along with Mr.Hall and Ms. Geist getting married, she also reunites with Josh and the two are on good terms again.
Season 2 focuses on the rest of the sophomore year for the No Worries Club from shopping and occasional visits to Josh’s college to joining the swim team and performing various athletic activities. Additionally, the high school has a big talent show with Cher wanting to get the No Worries Club into it although some are reluctant to participate because of their lack of talent and it’s up to Cher to teach them on how to sing and dance though their initial efforts go badly before they finally get the hang of it and wow the crowd with their newfound skills. Even though the No Worries Club didn’t win the contest, they feel happy and content with what they’ve accomplished even if it wasn’t in the way they intended. Aside from the main storyline, the second season has subplots about Christian’s gay romance with another student and the newly-minted Hall and Geist with Cher and the No Worries Club geting involved.
Season 3 (known as No Worries: A Hawaiian Adventure) is about the No Worries Club spending a summer vacation in the state of Hawaii after the sophomore year is over with Cher befriending the Aloha Club, the Hawaiian high school counteraprt to the No Worries Club. Cher and her friends struggle to adjust to living in a state located far from the mainland with it’s own unique quirks and traditions while meeting some rather rude tourists and locals.
Seasons 4 and 5 (known informally as “The Junior Years” for the fanbase) have Cher and the No Worries Club participating in the local track and field and national spelling bee contests to strengthen their existing bonds with each other. Unlike the previous season, Cher actually wins the spelling bee for her friends even if she didn’t exactly win the track and field contest in California, she still felt proud of what she did just like the song and dance show. Additionally, Cher discovers that her stepbrother has now graduated and decides to join her school for a job so he can be closer to her while her father Mel is dating a new young woman named Rosalina Calderi (Jennifer Aniston).
Season 6 focuses the senior year for the No Worries Club, their very last as Cher and the others have to think about their future each with their dreams and aspirations and Mel is tying the knot with Rosalina as his soon-to-be-engaged fiancee. Before graduation, Cher organizes a huge party for the No Worries Club at a theme park with Mel and Rosalina in attendance. After graduation, the No Worries Club is disbanded with it’s members going their own separate ways. A montage of what Cher and her friends as independent adults is shown just before the credits such as Cher going to law school to become a litigator just like her dad, Christian living happily with his husband and their adopted child or Dionne and Murray starting a clothing business together.
Cast
Main- Alicia Silverstone as Cher Horowitz
- Lauryn Hill as Dionne Davenport
- Brittany Murphy as Tai Frasier
- Paul Rudd as Josh Lucas
- Zooey Deschanel as Amber Mariens
- Jeremy Renner as Christian Stovitz
- Breckin Meyer as Travis Birkenstock
- Terrence Howard as Murray Duvall
- Guillermo Diaz as Julio Lopez (seasons 2-6)
- Jeremy Sisto as Elton Tiscia
- Dan Hedaya as Melvin “Mel” Horowitz
- Wallace Shawn as Mr. Wendell Hall
- Julie Brown as Coach Millie Diemer
- Twink Caplan as Ms. Toby Geist
- Jennifer Aniston as Rosalina Calderi (seasons 4-6)
Production
In 1993, the burgeoning Paramount-Fox Network was looking to expand it’s appeal to the teenage demographic and was in talks with screenwriters and directors to produce high school dramas or comedies inspired by the success of Good Morning, Miss Bliss[5]. Among the directors and screenwriter approached by PFN was Amy Heckerling, the director of the coming of age high school comedy-drama Fast Times at Ridgemont High. Heckerling had already done research on Beverly Hills high school culture and was eager to pitch her idea to Triad executives that wanted a hit teen show, she envisioned that her new series titled No Worries would be about an all-loving, happy-go-lucky student named Cher Horowitz (based partially on Heckerling herself) who would gradually form a circle of friends known as the No Worries Club and learn important lesions about responsibility and leadership. PFN loved Heckerling’s pitch and greenlit No Worries with an air date of 1995 to complement Final Girl.
With an air date and a a first season order approved by the network, Heckerling went to work casting the members of the No Worries Club and the faculty of Beverly Hills High School. For the students, Heckerling wanted rising stars and fresh, unknown faces to play the characters and the first actor to join No Worries was Alicia Silverstone as the show’s main lead Cher Horowitz. According to Heckerling, Silverstone was the first and only choice she had in mind for the role after watching her performance in The Crush and saw her as the actress that would bring out the right amount of precociousness, beauty and wit. After Silverstone was cast as Cher, Heckerling proceeded to fill out the rest of the No Worries Club with teen singer Lauryn Hill as Dionne Davenport (after reading the script and loving it), Brittany Murphy as Tai Frasier, Paul Rudd as Josh Lucas, Zooey Deschanel as Amber Mariens, Jeremy Renner as Christian Stovitz, Breckin Meyer as Travis Birkenstock and Terrence Howard as Murray Duvall. Heckerling gave the script of the first episode to Hill and loved it so much that she immediately signed on board while Renner was cast because Heckerling loved his comedic chops. Of the members of the No Worries Club, Deschanel was the youngest so her character Amber was rewritten to be a freshman to accommodate her. For faculty, Heckerling brought in some veteran talent most notably Wallace Shawn as Dr. Wendell Hall alongside Julie Brown and Twink Caplan as Millie Diemer and Ms. Toby Geist respectively. Lastly, Dan Hedaya would be cast as Cher’s father Mel Horowitz and Jeremy Sisto as fellow Beverly Hills student Elton Tiscia. With a cast of newcomers and veterans and a committed director, PFN would spend millions on advertising No Worries sometimes alongside their other hit teen series Final Girl and wanted to play up Heckerling’s credentials by mentioning it in connection to Fast Times at Ridgemont High and Look Who’s Talking but Heckerling put her foot down and convinced executives to not mention them in the marketing instead playing up her name recognition she had built up since becoming a director in the 1980s.
When it came to filming, Heckerling chose to shoot No Worries on location at the real Beverly Hills High School though she had to receive permission from the school to film there. For much of the show’s run, No Worries would be shot in the actual Beverly Hills with the exceptions of Hawaii and other locations in later seasons or nearby areas when it was impossible to do certain scenes in Beverly Hills. Most of the actors were above the legal age of 18 and older than their characters with the exception of Deschanel who had to be accompanied by her parents on every day of shooting. Eventually, when Deschanel finally turned 18, she was allowed to be on set without parental supervision like the others. Throughout the filming of No Worries, the cast developed genuine bonds with Heckerling and each other just like the No Worries Club and would even buy gifts. Rudd, the actor who portrays Josh Lucas, has said that his experience on No Worries was “the greatest time I’ve ever had, here or now”.
Reception and Legacy
The series premiered with strong ratings and was one of the most popular female-fronted shows on American television and PFN second only to Tank Girl. The show was praised by critics for it's dialogue, humor and performances of the cast. No Worries was also responsible for popularizing Beverly Hills high school slang to audiences, and Cher’s clothing styles would become quite influential in the fashion world. The show would also serve as the launching pad for the careers of many actors who would go on gain greater recognition in other films and TV shows before and after No Worries, most notably Deschanel in Almost Famous. Even today, the show has a huge following online and the Triad-owned Vixxen constantly airs reruns since the 2000s while Cher’s catchphrase “As If!” has become a popular netwit online.
In 2015, a “reunion special” movie titled No Worries: All Grown Up, would be released in theatres by 20th Century Studios featuring the original cast reprising their roles from the original series with Heckerling returning to direct and write. The film focused on the lives of the No Worries Club after graduation and served as the grand finale to the series as a whole. All Grown Up was a critical and commercial success grossing $105.6 million on a $56 million budget and was praised for being just as funny as the original and for showing the growth of the main cast after high school.
Trivia
- Just like Cher, Alicia Silverstone is Jewish. Similarly, Josh Lucas was made Jewish at the behest of his actor Paul Rudd given his status as Cher’s stepbrother.
- Cher Horowitz and Dionne Davenport are named after popular singers Cher and Dionne Warwick respectively or as Cher not su subtly puts it in the first episode “great singers of the past who now do infomercials”.
- Lauryn Hill was an R&B singer and the biggest name of the cast so she had Dionne sing in some episodes particularly the entirety of Season 2 given that it’s subject matter dealt with a talent show.
- To prepare for the Hawaiian-themed season, Heckerling had to fly to Honolulu and other parts of the state to provide an accurate portrayal of Hawaiian culture.
- Despite Christian being gay, Jeremy Renner is straight in real life and married to a woman. In a 2015 interview discussing the 20th anniversary of No Worries and All Grown Up, Renner said that he would have let a gay actor play Christian rather than him if it were made today.
- The character of Julio was originally not intended to be Hispanic but after a strong audition from Diaz, he was rewritten to be one specifically Cuban and gay just like his actor.
- Since the show was shot at Beverly Hills High School, actual students and teachers got to play bit parts or as walk-on extras.
- The episode “Tying The Knot” contained one of the earliest examples of simultaneous lesbian and gay marriages on television respectively
- Rudd having firmly established newfound star power after *redacted* and wanting to move onto other projects tried to convince Heckerling and the producers to write Josh out of the show but was persuaded to stay on board and write his character’s college-related story arcs.
- While writing up potential ideas for the No Worries Club’s summer vacation season, Amy Heckerling considered Florida or the United Kingdom as options before settling on Hawaii for it’s scenic environment and having enough unique cultural quirks to separate it from California and the mainland United States in addition to being closer to the entire country than the United Kingdom.
- Among the actors who auditioned or considered for the show were Stacey Dash as Dionne Davenport, Zach Braff as Josh Lucas, Donald Faison as Murray Duvall, Leah Remini as Tai Frasier, Sarah Michelle Gellar as Amber Mariens and Jerry Orbach as Melvin “Mel” Horowitz[6].
[1] Much like Bulletproof Hearts (TTL’s Bad Boys), the name and concept are taken from Amy Heckerling’s original plans to have OTL’s Clueless as a TV show for 20th Century Fox about the lives of nerds at a Beverly Hills high school. Because Fox and Paramount are under the same roof with different management to boot, Heckerling’s script will end up with Paramount-Fox Television who will option the show in 1993 with a 1995 air date for PFN.
[2] Silverstone would have been doing not just The Crush and Aerosmith’s “Cryin” but also some TV work in OTL and TTL so it’s not entirely impossible for her to appear in No Worries. She also gets a better career out of this since the disaster that was Batman & Robin isn’t there to derail her reputation as a leading starlet.
[3] Deschanel was a no-name 13 year old aspiring actress when she auditioned for Amber Mariens and she wouldn’t make her acting debut until 1998’s Veronica’s Closet. No Worries will put Deschanel on the acting map a decade early.
[4] With the exceptions listed above, the principal and recurring cast is comprised of actors who auditioned for these parts in OTL’s film: Hill for Dionne Davenport, Howard for Murray Duvall, the aforementioned Deschanel for Amber Mariens and Renner for Christian Stovitz. The show will help establish their acting careers as they will go on to do bigger things (with the exception of Hill who was already known for her music).
[5] For those wondering what happened to Saved by the Bell, Good Morning, Miss Bliss is essentially TTL’s equivalent of both shows with the high school setting and cast of the former and the presence of Hayley Mills’ Miss Carrle Bliss as a main character from the latter. The basic gist of how the show came to be is that NBC picks it up due to the different management at Disney but the creator Sam Bobrick is forced to change the setting to high school at the behest of executives and because the show is not picked up by the Disney Channel it airs in 1989 instead of 1987 and it lasts for four seasons. And much like OTL’s Saved by the Bell, Good Morning, Miss Bliss inspires a slew of imitators that copy some or all of it’s style such as a Miss Bliss type character or the cast and No Worries was greenlit by PFN to be their equivalent to the show but ultimately carves it’s own identity that it becomes popular and not seen as a ripoff of Good Morning.
[6] Aside from Remini, all of the actors mentioned were part of OTL’s Clueless cast aside from Seth Green (due to Spider-Man) and Owen Wilson (he took a break from acting for a while). In the cases of Dash and Faison, they will have to get new breakout roles since they’re not in No Worries.
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Didn’t know where else to put these, seeing as the Picture Thread’s locked…
Ive been reading this timeline with keen interest and I thought I’d try and bring Castillo de La Bella Durmiente to life…plus a rare snapshot of Jim Henson and Kermit at the opening of Disneyland Valencia (April 21st, 1992).
Ive been reading this timeline with keen interest and I thought I’d try and bring Castillo de La Bella Durmiente to life…plus a rare snapshot of Jim Henson and Kermit at the opening of Disneyland Valencia (April 21st, 1992).
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I'm double posting this here just in case @Geekhis Khan says yes to someone posting this:
Considering how similar this is to a Disney film OTL is there any chance that Disney and Rankin/Bass could work together to make a more accurate, less stereotypical version of this:
Considering how similar this is to a Disney film OTL is there any chance that Disney and Rankin/Bass could work together to make a more accurate, less stereotypical version of this:
And than later have Disney buy out and 'gift' Rankin/Bass to Burton's Skeleton Crew so we can a Rankin/Bass style version of The Haunted Mansion:Wikipedia said:
The ideas you have are good, but I don't think Warner Bros, who presumably owns Rankin-Bass, would necessarily bite the bait here. Especially not if it results in a Disney-owned Rankin-Bass this far in the timeline.I'm double posting this here just in case @Geekhis Khan says yes to someone posting this:
Considering how similar this is to a Disney film OTL is there any chance that Disney and Rankin/Bass could work together to make a more accurate, less stereotypical version of this:
And than later have Disney buy out and 'gift' Rankin/Bass to Burton's Skeleton Crew so we can a Rankin/Bass style version of The Haunted Mansion:
Near as I can tell WB doesn't own Rankin/Bass:
It sounds like they never sold out to anyone, but I could be wrong.Wikipedia said:
I was talking about the Hensonverse timeline, not in our timeline. Just wanted to clarify that.